Canon C100: Likes & Dislikes

Canon C100: Likes & Dislikes

My 30 days of shooting with the C100 are officially over. I really put this camera through its paces in almost any situation you can think of. My perspective is to judge this camera for what it is intended; as a viable replacement/upgrade from a DSLR. Overall, I think it’s an excellent option for anyone looking for this kind of solution. It does a pretty good job of blending the look and creative style of a DSLR with the practical functionality of a traditional video camera.

So, rather than blabbing on and on, I thought I would just get to the point and briefly describe what I liked, what was slightly annoying, and what I didn’t like.

Eyecup 2

 

CANON C100 LIKES:

1. LOW LIGHT PERFORMANCE

The low light performance of this camera is quite remarkable. I actually found myself staring at the picture in disbelief after comparing it to what I was seeing with my naked eye. I never felt comfortable pushing my 5D MKII much past 800 ISO. With the C100 I was up around 10,000 on a couple of occasions and still had good results. For the type of work I do, this in itself made me feel good about my decision to buy one.

2. PEAKING

Having this traditional video feature in this type of camera was a god send. Focusing was a breeze, even when viewing the LCD screen from a slight distance in bright light. The focus point really cracks back-and-forth nicely. When I pulled out my old MKII with a Zacuto Z-Finder for comparison it was like looking at the image through a Pro Mist filter or something. How the heck did I manage without peaking? I can’t go back. Yes, you can add an external EVF that includes a peaking feature but that’s another thing to mount on the camera and I always found that awkward and somewhat unwieldy.

3. ACCESS TO CONTROLS

After a few days of shooting I found all the controls were pretty much exactly where I wanted them to be and everything became second nature. I could start/stop record, adjust f-stop, ISO, white balance and the ND filter without removing my hands from the operating position. You can assign almost any function to any button, but I found the factory settings to be just fine and didn’t mess with them at all. Plus the buttons are labeled with their default function so why cause confusion.

The small thumb-operated joystick on the handgrip was extremely useful. With one click you can activate it and easily jump around to several functions such as ISO in the viewfinder display. Loved this thing!

4. BATTERY LIFE

The battery life was crazy good. The small battery that comes with the camera would almost last me all day. Before I set out on this trip, I bought two of the larger, high capacity batteries and I barely used them. I would typically shoot for about 6 or 7 hours and I think I only drained the stock battery once. I would recommend buying just one additional battery for average use. See how it goes and only buy more if you find you need them.

5. RECORD TIME

The down side of the AVCHD codec is 4:2:0. The good side is awesome recording time. 2.5 hours on one 32GB SD card. That’s outstanding. I could put two 32GB cards in the thing and shoot all day without worry about it again. For traveling, it also means I can bring enough SD cards (which are relatively cheap) with me and not have to dump anything to a hard drive. You can also set the second SD card slot to dual record so it will create a backup copy simultaneously. Great feature.

6. HAND GRIP

I’m a big fan of the side handgrip. I find it extremely comfortable – even over a long period of time. I can remember some other video camera handgrips that left my hand as numb as a canned ham after just a few hours. This one just makes sense. It felt right from the moment I picked it up. You can rotate the grip but it does take a couple of minutes as you have to unthread it, rotate it where you want it, then rethread it. It’s more of a “set and forget” kind of thing than something you adjust several times during the day. I found the straight-up center position quite well balanced.

Love the hand grip.

Love the hand grip.

 

7. CARRYING HANDLE

Such a simple thing but did I ever put it to good use. It kind of reminded me of using my EX1 when I needed to get low angle shots of feet walking along a path or hang the camera out a car window etc. One one occasion, I found myself laying out of the back of a van while filming an Olympic triathlete running and cycling down a twisting canyon road. I held onto the handle and let the camera just barely skim above the road surface while eyeballing the shot on the LCD screen.  Try that with a DSLR. I know it’s possible if you have one all rigged up, but for me, I don’t really do that with my cameras. I prefer them clean and compact without all the extra bits and pieces attached everywhere.

The handle also made it possible to comfortably carry the camera while I was walking around. This is no small deal. It’s the little things that really add up to make your day easier.

 

 

The top handle was great for walking shots behind and beside kids.

The top handle was great for walking shots behind and beside kids.

More low-angle shots in the garbage dump.

More low-angle shots in the garbage dump.

Hanging out the back of a van. The handle was perfect for getting the camera to skim just above the road surface.

Hanging out the back of a van. The handle was perfect for getting the camera to skim just above the road surface.

 

8. USE OF EF-S LENSES

I had a few EF-S lenses from my old 7D that I couldn’t part with including a 10-22mm and a f-2.8 17-55mm. Because the C100 excepts EF-S lenses I decided to bring them along and see how they performed. I ended up using them a lot. Because of the C100′s crop factor I found my EF-L 24-105mm just wasn’t wide enough for up close documentary work. It had the reach, but I just felt boxed in. The 17-55mm worked great. It has IS, it’s fast enough at f.2.8, and it’s considerably lighter than an L series lens. I couldn’t see any real difference in the image quality, so for future road trips, this lens is coming with me. The 10-22mm was more like a 16-35mm with the crop factor so it was really handy for the occasional ultra-wide shot.

Now the C100 does have a menu option for what it calls EF-S Lens Correction. When activated, it enlarges the image by approximately 1.04% to crop “peripheral illumination fall-off”. To be honest, I couldn’t see any advantage to turning this on. And because I was swapping EF-S and EF-L lenses all the time, I didn’t want to be bothered, and more likely forgetting, to turn it on and off. From just my naked eye, all the EF-S footage looks just fine. If there was any fall-off on the edges, I couldn’t see it. Maybe I’ll regret it later when I’m editing all the footage and see it on a big screen. I’ll keep you posted on that.

I used a mix of EF-L and EF-S lenses.

I used a mix of EF-L and EF-S lenses.

9. MAGNIFY WHILE RECORDING

Being able to magnify the image to double check focus while you’re recording was quite handy on a few occasions. On most of our interviews I was shooting with a very shallow depth of field, so it was nice to be able punch in to make sure my focus was still accurate as the subject moved around a bit. Just one thing to be aware of, resist the urge to re-frame the shot slightly when viewing the magnified image! It’s just such an instinctive habit that a couple of times I found myself doing it even though there are big letters in the screen display that say “MAGN”. Felt a little embarrassed inside my head.

No camera is perfect and the C100 is no exception.

No camera is perfect and the C100 is no exception.

CANON C100 ANNOYANCES:

1. ND FILTERS

If you want to maintain an f-2.8 to 5.6 aperture range in bright lighting conditions such as a sunny beach etc, the built-in ND filter wheel doesn’t quite cut it. I found that I needed to add an additional screw-on ND filter on more than a few occasions. I added a 4-stop ND, which was probably overkill, but it did the job.

The built in ND wheel works great and it’s well placed on the camera. But the three options are 2-stops, 4-stops and 6-stops. Unfortunately, that’s about 2-stops short. Given the choice, I would rather have 2-stops, 4-stops and 8-stops. It’s easier too add more ND than perhaps you ideally need and bring up the ISO to compensate – keeping a larger aperture and relatively shallow depth of field. There is no negative ISO so without additional ND filters you could find yourself shooting at f.11 or similar in bright conditions.

2. LOW VOLUME AUDIO OUTPUT

I haven’t really tested this with several types of headphones, but the volume of the audio output to the headphone jack was low – even with the volume control maxed out. Like-wise for the speaker on the body of the camera. If there’s any kind of background noise you won’t hear much from the speaker when you’re checking playback.

3. AUDIO METERS

Unlike the Sony XDCAM-EX cameras, the only way to view audio levels is via the small meters in the viewfinder/LCD. There is a “Status” menu function that brings up all kinds of detailed information options, but I was disappointed to see that expanded, more accurate audio meters wasn’t one of them.

And there are some things that just make you frustrated.

And there are some things that just make you frustrated.

CANON C100 DISLIKES:

1. EYEPIECE/VIEWFINDER

In my opinion, this is the C100’s one major flaw. The fact that it’s so small, has poor resolution, doesn’t tilt up, and doesn’t include any type of eyecup to block out light is just plain silly. Most people will probably ignore it completely and rely on the LCD screen. This does work in most situations but obviously not in all. In almost any photo or video of the C100 in action you can see all kinds of hand-made sunshades or hoods that are taped or clamped on in some fashion. It’s like Canon got us 90% there with this camera and then just left us to our own devises to figure this out.

That being said, I did find that my temporary workarounds described in my previous post worked reasonably well. And, as much as hate to say it, I did find that adapting the old Sony PD-170 eyecup made the eyepiece much more usable than I thought. It actually worked and got the job done. I’m not saying that’s it’s good – more that I just got used to it. I suppose I’ve used worse over the years. I’m going to refrain from looking through the eyepiece of the C300 because that will just make me angry again. What could have been!

 2. WATER/WEATHER RESISTANCE 

Once again I haven’t done extensive testing on this, but it appears water getting anywhere near this camera could be an issue. I was shooting handheld, following a swimmer walking into the ocean. My plan was to just go in about waist deep and let them swim away from camera. On our way into the surf, a small little wave kicked up a minor splash that hit the side of the camera. Nothing major, just a few drops here and there.

Well, I’m not exactly sure where the water entered the camera body or if was more about the battery compartment, but within a few seconds the entire picture flickered in an “oh-oh” kind of way and then went completely blue. Restarting the camera didn’t solve the problem. After going to my happy place for a few minutes, I just turned it off, left it in the sun for about 45 minutes and pretended nothing happened. Then I turned it back on and all was well. Hmmmmm?

This could have been a one-time, fluke kind of incident or it could be something to be truly concerned about. I don’t really want to splash some more water on it to find out. If anyone else has any experience with this I’d like to hear from you.

All in all, I think the C100 is a great choice for anyone wanted to evolve from DSLR  shooting. It packs quite a punch and the images will blow you away.

All in all, I think the C100 is a great choice for anyone wanted to evolve from DSLR shooting. It packs quite a punch and the images will blow you away.

 

 

 

 

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15 Comments

  1. March 5, 2013, 3:39 am   /  Reply

    Hi Scot,

    Interesting notes on the C100 – great to hear practical feedback from someone using it in the field. I’ve been shooting with it since January for corporate and some event work. Agree with all your pros and cons… for me the viewfinder is useless and using the LCD outdoors is a challenge. Would like to see some 3rd party solution soon.

    Would be interested in hearing your experience in editing…. have you used the C-Log profile at all? Any comments on where to expose on the waveform?

    • Scot McDonald
      March 5, 2013, 7:01 am   /  Reply

      Hi Glenn,
      I haven’t used C-Log yet as these first projects with the C100 have tight post budgets and I won’t have time to grade each shot. I have however been using the “Wide DR” profile and I’m quite happy with the look of it. You can get away with little or no grading and have a very nice look.

      As far as the waveform goes, I have to be honest, I didn’t really use it at all. After so many years of doing this (too many to mention!) I’m more of an eyeball guy. Once I’m familiar with how the viewfinder or screen represents actual exposure, I just rely on my visual judgement.

      Thanks for the comment and questions. Hope to hear from you again soon!
      Scot McDonald

      • March 5, 2013, 7:23 am   /  Reply

        Cheers Scot – keep up the good work with the blog!

  2. March 7, 2013, 8:01 pm   /  Reply

    I am very excited to be purchasing this camera soon. Wondering what kind of boom mic you used with c100? And how good was the onboard mic?

    • Scot McDonald
      March 8, 2013, 12:23 am   /  Reply

      Hi Jesse,
      Thanks for you comment and question. I use a Sennheiser ME64 short shotgun. It’s a great mic for the C100. You can read more details about that in an earlier reply in this post.

      I haven’t really assessed the quality of the builtin mic other than to say that it works and there is audio there. Like most of these types of mics, they’re ok in a pinch, but I would never rely on it for production sound. Also, there isn’t any wind protection to speak of, so outside it will be pretty much useless in any kind of breeze. So, if aliens landed in your backyard in the middle of the night and you just grabbed the camera in your pyjamas and ran out the door to get some shots before it flew away – that’s what the builtin mic is for.

      When you get your C100 let me know what your likes and dislikes are.

      Thanks again!
      Scot McDonald

      • March 8, 2013, 2:41 pm   /  Reply

        Thanks for the info! I will reach out again once I have had some time with the c100. Best!

  3. Sheldon
    March 8, 2013, 12:06 pm   /  Reply

    Wow. Sorry to hear about the water issue. I am about to purchase a c100 and I’ll be using it a lot along the coast, and on a sailing trip. I went to Costa Rica in 2008 for a month with two 40D’s and both crapped within a week from moisture infiltration. There was a lot of salt water spray, humidity and I photographed some surfers by wading in once and had the same little splash. Didn’t immediate effect the camera but many functions stopped working shortly after rendering it useless. I know use only weather sealed bodies, and if the C100 can’t take a little mist or light rain, that’s incredibly worrisome.

  4. April 29, 2013, 11:28 pm   /  Reply

    5d mk3. Or. C100. .? Thank you

    • Scot McDonald
      April 30, 2013, 8:19 am   /  Reply

      Hi there Sweet molly,
      Well, all things considered, I would go for the C100. More money yes, but if you’re looking for a camera to shoot primarily video rather than a mix of photography and video, then the XLR audio inputs, built-in ND filters, form factor and general functionality of the C100 is well worth the extra investment. You do give up a full-frame sensor but you get the same low light performance and I’m more than happy with the image quality. Plus, with the C100 you can use less expensive Canon EF-S lenses such as the 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Zoom with great success.

      Hope this helps!

  5. May 3, 2013, 11:41 am   /  Reply

    Hi Scott, i’ve been looking at either the C100 or XF300 to match with my T2i with Magic Lantern and 5DM3. I was wondering if you’ve used the XF300 and if so how does this camera compare when it comes to IQ and run&gun? I know I’ll loose DOF on the XF300.

    Thanks

    David A

    • Scot McDonald
      May 3, 2013, 1:36 pm   /  Reply

      Hi David,
      I haven’t actually shot with the XF300 but I’m familiar with it. This is an interesting choice; XF300 or C100? The C100 has definitely bridged the gap between DSLR and traditional video camera shooting. You get the look and low-light performance but with much better functionality. The XF300 gives you an excellent “run-and-gun” camera with 50Mbps 4:2:2 recording – that’s a big plus of you’re doing work for broadcast. The C100 outputs 50Mbps 4:2:2 through HDMI but you’ll need an external recorder. Price wise they’re almost identical, although Canon just announced a rebate for the C100 which makes it slightly cheaper now. However, add in an external recorder such as the Ninja-2 and you’re right back to the same price point. So, no clear-cut winner regarding price.

      In my opinion, if you’re goal is to shoot with more of a creative, story telling, cine style – then I would go with the C100. If you’ll be doing more live events, real-time stuff or reality TV etc and you need to react quickly and get it right with minimal futzing around – then I would go with the XF300.

      In the end though, I think this comes down to the camera you feel more comfortable with. The best camera is the one you’ll actually use and make money with!

      Good luck. Let me know what you choose and how it works out.

      Cheers!
      Scot McDonald

  6. May 3, 2013, 1:55 pm   /  Reply

    C100 or XF100 or XF300? Tough choices!
    I put in an order for the C100 a few days ago, this was a great review and as most of my work is solo-documentary or industrial shooting, this camera seems to be the best buy now. I have been using a 7D &60D since moving away from 1/3″ chip cameras. Though I am very disappointed that Canon could not justify a slightly better internal codec, at least they made it possible to use an external recorder, through HDMI…when did that become a professional jack? Still, as the “competition” is the FS100 from Sony, or the AF100 from Panasonic, I decided to stay with the EF mount as I have a considerable investment in EF glass. The sensor technology is interesting, same sensor as the 300&500, but crippled (lower cost) internal processing? Well isn’t’ that what external recorders are for? Why process anything and put out 4k as well? Hard to sell a $26K camera if the $5.5K camera could output 4k raw as well. I am looking forward to using the camera soon, as I have been using the DSLR’s with a large battery grip, the form factor should be similar.
    I did a shoot with a full rig and follow focus with the 60d, what a pain! I am expecting to be able to do more hand held work with this camera from all the reports I have read hand holding without a rig is possible, I just hope I get good results as well.

    M

  7. May 12, 2013, 11:26 pm   /  Reply

    Very informative post on the C100. You’ve answered my questions about ef-s lenses. I have a Tamron 17-55mm F2.8 VC II lens that I want to hold in to due to the crop factor on the c100. I’m assuming its similar spec to the canon 17-55 efs lens you mention so vignetting shouldn’t be an issue. I am worried that the 24-105 F4 would not be wide enough for what I need and was leaning towards the 17-40 F4. I’d love to hear your opinion. My main use is corporate promotional videos and run and gun style.

    Thanks again.

    • Scot McDonald
      May 13, 2013, 10:45 am   /  Reply

      Hi Drew,
      That exactly what I found with the 24-105 f/4 – it was my “go-to” lens with the 5D but wasn’t quite wide enough when using it on the C100. Much of my work is hand-held and up close, so even though I was giving up some reach, the 17-55 f/2.8 worked much better for me.

      The 17-40 f/4 L is an excellent lens, but I would probably choose the 17-55 f/2.8, even though it’s an EF-S lens. It’s faster, has Image Stabilization (which the 17-40 doesn’t) and for situations like interviews, its just long enough to get in tight. I think you’ll find the 17-40 a little frustrating in that regard – always just not quite long enough!

      Hope this helps.

      Cheer!
      Scot McDonald

      • Drew
        May 14, 2013, 5:04 am   /  Reply

        Thanks Scott,
        That’s was my worry with the 17-40. I think I’ll stick with the 17-55 and my 70-200 F4 L lens for now. The 17-55 has been my main lens for 3 years.
        Enjoying your blog btw. Very informative.
        Drew

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